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Interview: Sean Adams, Drowned in Sound

November, 16th 2009 18:04

Sean Adams founded the hugely popular music website, Drowned in Sound, in 2000 and also runs the record label of the same name, through which he has released music by Bat For Lashes, Kaiser Chiefs and Martha Wainwright. With a decade of music industry experience behind him, it’s fair to say he knows a bit about music and is very vocal in championing new talent so we asked him a few questions on your behalf to get a bit of an insight into what you can do to get noticed…

Sean, thanks for taking the time to answer some questions for us.

Ok, so first things first, in your opinion, what’s the first thing a new artist/band should do when trying to build up a fanbase?

First of all, I think it’s really important that bands are aware what kind of first impression they’re able to make. Be warned, most people will only check out your band once, so be sure your songs and recordings are as good as they can be. You may think they’re genius now but will you still think so in two weeks or two years?

It’s really important you don’t expose yourself until you’re ready as bands are written off by potential fans, media and the music industry far too early these days – few people have the vision to forsee what you may develop into, given time, a better studio, etc.

At what stage should bands start promoting themselves to the press? Do you have any tips for artists looking to do the work themselves?

Spend some time doing plenty of research. The best thing you can do is spend a couple of weeks (or more, ideally) trying to discover some music for yourself. In doing this you’ll hopefully discover a few things:

1) what other music is out there

2) what you like about how people present themselves

3) what sort of things certain publications/radio stations/web services do and cover that are relevant to you

4) the process that fans go through to find music

With this ever-evolving base of knowledge you’ll hopefully find relevant nights to play or blogs to send your music to or realise what you’re doing is/isn’t as unique as you think and perhaps re-address things. Looking at the more established acts you might also be able to magpie the germs of some ideas which can work for your band in terms of clear and concise presentation or find networks you should be on. Use a site like metacritic.com/music to find and hone in the relevant sites you should be on (Take for instance Paramore.net, which is a great example of what a band website should be like. It highlights a current hot topic (release/video, etc), summarises news and aggregates both artist and fan content. It works for them but if you don’t have as many fans as a multi-million selling band, then look at it and adapt it for your own use.

There are many tools out there online for artists to connect with their fans, make money from their music, promote themselves and manage their careers (ours included!); what would you say are the most useful tools for a new artist to investigate?

Just as important as trying to sell things, is building an audience to sell things to! Giving ‘some’ music away seems to be the best way of doing this and any tools which allow you to give tracks away in exchange for an email address (as long as it’s easy to opt out) or someone sharing your music with their friends, is the key. I really like Bandcamp and theSixtyOne in this sense. Also, digital aggregators like yourselves are great for getting your music onto multiple digital stores, like iTunes, too – however being on there isn’t the end game, it’s just the start. Be everywhere and continue to promote your music, concentrate on whatever is working and drive people to those sites and stores. I’ve found tracks on iTunes which are being given away elsewhere still sell, so don’t just do one thing but focus people in one place (ideally your website).

In terms of data-management and getting listings spread, Artistdata is pretty good and there’s a wealth of ways you can keep your band in touch with each other and communicate with fans. Lifehacker is great for finding best ways of sharing diaries with band members and Google Docs is good for having a shared band manifesto/plan.

As someone who runs a label, what advice would you give to anyone setting up a label to release their own music or any budding entrepreneurs looking to run a label online?

Don’t do it. Don’t do it. Don’t do it. Start a label because you have to, not because it’s a way to make money or monetise things. If you’re self-releasing your music, say so, creating a fascade will just detach you from fans who might be ok spending a few quid extra if they know the money is going direct to you. If you want to start a label, then be prepared to make no money and discover that the music business is a mess and full of unexciting forms and dated concepts, with more paperwork to officially put out and push a single through a label than is worthwhile in the long run.

Know your audience and be pessimistic. On the whole, indie fans want physical/collectible products, and not necessarily just digital files that they’re potentially savvy enough to obtain elsewhere, for free. A survey of a 100 Drowned in Sound readers found that only about 6% of them pay for music in a per-track manner and that only 15% of them pay for services like EMusic or Spotify premium, whereas nearly all of them buy 7inches and nicely packaged CDs.

With the announcement this week that 2009 is a record year for single sales (and we’re not even into the Christmas period yet) and with only around 1% of these singles being purchased in physical formats, it’s safe to say that the music-buying public is increasingly turning to digital means, where do you see things in five years? Will people still be buying music outright or will we all be streaming content online?

I’d love to believe these numbers are a good sign. They’re great if you’re a heavily marketed act like Pixie Lott or Lady Gaga but don’t really mean anything if you’re not in the same well-funded warship. If anything, these acts are selling individual tracks, cheaper and cheaper and it’s costing them more and more to do so. Whereas a few years ago singles were £2.99, they’re now 79p, so the margins are tight.

Staying on the topic, DiS is one of the first sites to go completely digital, you are now only accepting content through digital means and turning your back on traditional methods of consumption. Do you think there is still a place for traditional music industry values in the future of music or have major labels, charts companies and radio stations got to start doing some thinking?

For me, I don’t like the clutter of a lot of CDs I’ll never have the time to listen to (I was getting sent about 40 hours of music, every day!). We’ve created an open demo pile (here: http://soundcloud.com/groups/drownedinsound), so that our readers can fish through what we’ve been sent. I mainly treat CDs as carcasses which I strip music from, I’ve never really had an affinity with shiny magpie traps. I fear that a lot of those younger than me (I’m 27) who’ve grown up with p2p, Hype Machine and now cloud streaming services like Spotify, have the same lack of compulsion to build a physical library of dusty discs.

Having said that, I’ve bought heaps of albums on vinyl lately and love everything that Trent Reznor has been up to, he’s a true visionary. Plus it really irks me that In Rainbows has now become a “music has little to no value” irresponsible message to consumers, rather than a “we sold loads of records for £40,” vision of the future. I think it’s a good sign that streaming is being considered for the UK charts but I’m not sure the ad revenue will ever match the revenue required to pay royalties fairly.

So I guess the final question is, is digital really all that? Sure things have changed a lot from the days of having to go into a studio and press up copies of your demo on vinyl but are home-recording artists, catalogues of digital music that could run for 2 years and online tools really good for the growth of music?

There’s not really an answer to that. If anything, this young industry is in a complete state. We’ve had our boom period (at its peak people were buying an average of one point two CDs, not 10+ CDs) as a capitalist industry whereby megastars propped up thousands of also-rans. Those who’ll be left when everything finally goes to shit, when things are truly untenable will be the ones who care, the ones who have a passion that knows no bounds. Decisions will be tougher to make and things will be just as hard as they ever were.

More people than ever have easy access to music and the key will be making a small amount from a larger audience. Things will downsize and I’m not sure as many people will have careers across the board. I’m not saying being a full-time musician will be as rare as being a full-time poet, but that’s kinda how things were in the 1870s, when the music industry at the time feared the phonograph, and decreed recorded music would kill the live gig…

Thanks Sean.

Sean Adams is founder of http://drownedinsound.com & DiS Records http://myspace.com/disrecords and is a columnist for Sunday Times Culture. He blogs at http://seaninsound.blogspot.com and tweets here http://twitter.com/seaninsound .



Interview: founder of Surface Unsigned, Jay Mitchell

November, 9th 2009 15:30

This year Zimbalam is sponsoring the Surface Unsigned Festival so we thought we’d fill you all in on the details of this great event and how and why you should get involved. We asked the festival’s founder, Jay Mitchell a few questions and here’s what he had to say…

Hi Jay, thanks for taking the time to answer our questions.

No problem!

How long has Surface Unsigned been going for now and where did it all start?
The Surface Unsigned Festival started up 3 years ago in Birmingham. The Festival was started of a group a passionate musicians whose core values are based purely on the emergence of talent in the unsigned market.

What’s in it for the bands that enter?
Amazing venues, amazing prizes, cash, industry showcases and U.K. tours. The prizes for this year are:

1st Place:

  • £5,000 cash
  • To play at Sziget Festival 2011 (Second stage – 65,000 people): Travel and accommodation included
  • Digital distribution contract with Zimbalam
  • Sales promotion from Believe Digital
  • Online banner marketing packagethrough Believe Digital
  • European and UK online PR package (Believe)
  • UK radio plugging package (Believe)
  • 40 hours multi-track recording
  • Press release to over 45,000 music-related email addresses
  • A 4 day (3 gigs) UK tour courtesy of Jumbo Cruiser
  • A 12 track compilation comprising 3 tracks
  • Individual one-track/single deal
  • Main stage appearance at Music Live 2010 at the National Exhibition Centre
  • Professional full day photo shoot courtesy of TrippCobain Imaging
  • £1,000 worth of promo from Last.FM

2nd Place:

  • Marshall rig courtesy of Marshall Amplification
  • Tama Superstar drum kit courtesy of Tama
  • Zildjian Custom A cymbals courtesy of Zildjian
  • A 4 day (3 gigs) UK tour courtesy of Jumbo Cruiser
  • A 12 track compilation comprising 1 track
  • Individual one-track/single deal

3rd Place:

  • 15 x sets of D’Addario XL strings, 15 x sets of D’Addario bass strings, Planet Waves S.O.S. guitar yuner, Planet Waves S.O.S. bass tuner, 5 x Planet Waves instrument cables, Planet Waves capo, Evans tom pack (3 tom heads), Evans snare head and an Evans drum key courtesy of Planet Waves, D’Addario, and Evans
  • DMK57/52, 2 x SM58 mic’s, 2 x Beta58 mic’s, PGX24/SM58 wireless system including wireless SM58 mic and 2 x SM137 courtesy of Shure
  • A 4 day (3 gigs) UK tour courtesy of Jumbo Cruiser
  • A 12 track compilation comprising 1 track
  • Individual one-track/single deal

So many bands enter each year, how does the festival work?
Year upon year we have seen record numbers of applications coming in from unsigned bands from all over the U.K. and beyond, wanting to play the Festival. The response for the 2010 Surface Unsigned Festival has been no different; the interest has been phenomenal.  The quality of the bands that have applied so far for 2010 has also been amazing – we can’t wait for the Festival to kick start next year !!

Who picks the winners?

The prizes will be distributed between the top 3 bands as decided by the judges (who carry 75% of the vote) and the public (who carry 25% of the vote via a text vote). The judging panel is made up from  invited guests from the industry. Our panel is headed up by Jon Brookes, the founding member and drummer of ‘The Charlatans’. Other industry guests at Surface Unsigned have included representatives from Polydor, Geffen, Universal, One Little Indian Records, Boy Wonder Records, Sunday Best Records, Mercury Records, Audio Authority Management, Revolver Records and Weekender Records amongst many others.

What has been the best experience of running the festival so far?

The National Showcases are always the highlight of the year. Doing the show at the o2 this year was amazing – definitely the highlight so far.

What are the plans for the future of the festival?

In 2011 we are expanding into other areas of the U.K. and into Europe. We are currently looking to operate in 16 cities in 2011, meaning a world final which promises to be out of this world.

What can artists entering the festival do to maximise the benefit of being in the contest?
Well it’s all about the music right? So write great songs and you’re already well on your way!!

Find out more about the festival and sign up your band over at www.surfaceunsigned.co.uk